Fleischgewehr 48 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 2:15 PM, Hokkaido said: Can you remember which one? NO, i am really sorry. i was a bit starstruck and DIDNT note anything down when i absolutely should have, also i tried to keep it short and not to waste his time. i remember, it was a standard preset from something vintage, had two letters and a number. something like, VS-31? something with thirty....but thats now almost 3 years ago....how time flies. i hope i will meet him again and then, i will simply film, tape him and write it down to not forget it. anyhow, it ISNT in omnisphere, this i remember firmly and since it sounds so much like a hammond-rock-organ thing, its gotta be something vintage. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 248 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) Il y a 3 heures, Fleischgewehr a dit : NO, i am really sorry. i was a bit starstruck and DIDNT note anything down when i absolutely should have, also i tried to keep it short and not to waste his time. i remember, it was a standard preset from something vintage, had two letters and a number. something like, VS-31? something with thirty....but thats now almost 3 years ago....how time flies. i hope i will meet him again and then, i will simply film, tape him and write it down to not forget it. anyhow, it ISNT in omnisphere, this i remember firmly and since it sounds so much like a hammond-rock-organ thing, its gotta be something vintage. Damn! 😆 Let's play some Total Recall: Was it a popular brand like Korg or Roland? Is it listed here? http://www.synthmania.com/ Does something ring a bell? Vintage synths with "30": E-MU Esi-32 Roland MKS-30 Roland MT-32 Roland SH-32 Roland JV-30 / 35 Roland JS30 Roland W30 Roland XP-30 Yamaha RY30 Yamaha CS30 Yamaha S30 Yamaha SK30 Yamaha SS30 Yamaha SY35 Yamaha TG33 Edited April 24, 2019 by Hokkaido Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 2335 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) Radio Synthbass: Mainframe Bass (Omnisphere 2) ? Radio Lead Mono OSC synth: Digitalized Square Lead (Omnisphere 2) ? Edited April 24, 2019 by Atomiiik Link to post Share on other sites
Fleischgewehr 48 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) @Hokkaido You know what, i'll take you seriously on this, and since Flake is a longtime ROLAND friend, i say, go with the ROLANDs....Roland JV-30 / 35 might be the one. I only can remember now that it wasnt in Omnisphere 2, that it was a standard preset on that device he named, and that the name of that device had a 2-letter and 2 numbers product name, pretty damn sure. I dont mean to troll anyone or to brag or lie. I really had that conversation and i couldnt be more pissed with myself about not having made any notes. Well, it is what it is. EDIT: MAN!!!!! Remember when one user mentioned these "Echo Drops" from an old Roland soundbank and i mocked it. WELL.... here is a video of a Roland JV-35....and it shows the patch "ECHO DROPS" on it (unfortunately not being played). And from what i remember, the "ECHO DROPS" that this other user here mentioned, sounded REALLY like the ITDW thing. I think we are onto something. ECHO DROPS appearing at 2:35 and it says P:13-7 (103), which is i guess, its patchnumber... i even can provide a JV-35 manual! https://archive.org/details/synthmanual-roland-jv-35-owners-manual Edited April 24, 2019 by Fleischgewehr 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 2335 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Echo Drops played here a 29:24 Edited April 25, 2019 by Atomiiik Link to post Share on other sites
Synth_Lead 96 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Il y a 11 heures, Atomiiik a dit : Radio Synthbass: Mainframe Bass (Omnisphere 2) ? Radio Lead Mono OSC synth: Digitalized Square Lead (Omnisphere 2) ? Je valide le second, le premier par contre je ne pense pas... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 248 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Il y a 6 heures, Atomiiik a dit : Echo Drops played here a 29:24 The thing is that "Echo Drop" is a General MIDI preset. So it can sound completely different on a different synth and can also be present on other brands like Yamaha or Korg... I'll check my GM banks tonight... Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 248 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Okay, found some time to check the files! First of all the Gigapack Mellotron strings on Ich tu dir weh: https://vocaroo.com/i/s0N2L8jijZGj And now 3 different "Echo Drops" from three Roland Sound Canvas rips. The first one has its focus on choir, the second on bells, the third one (the closest one so far, from Roland SC-55) on a plucked instrument - now we have to find the original version with that "glitchy organ" tone... Maybe it's the one on the JV-30/35 https://vocaroo.com/i/s1FvcXplJIqC Edit: There was also a Roland SC-33 and SD-35... Edited April 25, 2019 by Hokkaido Link to post Share on other sites
Fleischgewehr 48 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) When @Synth_Lead aprilfooled us, he wasnt too far off in naming PLUCKsicado. Just because it sounds A LOT like a Click Organ / Hammond Organ doesnt mean it IS one. That sound might very well be plucked. And number 3 from the SC-55 is again, quite similar. THEN AGAIN: If my memory serves me right, Flake said "standard preset" so, which to my understanding means, choosing the preset and playing it without ANY changes. And the one in ITDW sounds at least like that plucked instrument version, but with a veeeeeery "closed" cutoff filter. like, as if the full spectrum of sound has been muffled. maybe someone who can fiddle with the original should try using the cutoff filter, if theres a knob for it. I say, focus on the plucked sound one, and fiddle with the filters. Because, if you listen closely to the one in the JV1080 demo video, and compare it to the song, you WILL notice, that it has the exact same "consistency" to it, if you get my drift. Edited April 25, 2019 by Fleischgewehr 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Synth_Lead 96 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 il y a 13 minutes, Fleischgewehr a dit : When @Synth_Lead aprilfooled us, he wasnt too far off in naming PLUCKsicado. Just because it sounds A LOT like a Click Organ / Hammond Organ doesnt mean it IS one. That sound might very well be plucked. And number 3 from the SC-55 is again, quite similar. THEN AGAIN: If my memory serves me right, Flake said "standard preset" so, which to my understanding means, choosing the preset and playing it without ANY changes. And the one in ITDW sounds at least like that plucked instrument version, but with a veeeeeery "closed" cutoff filter. like, as if the full spectrum of sound has been muffled. maybe someone who can fiddle with the original should try using the cutoff filter, if theres a knob for it. I say, focus on the plucked sound one, and fiddle with the filters. Because, if you listen closely to the one in the JV1080 demo video, and compare it to the song, you WILL notice, that it has the exact same "consistency" to it, if you get my drift. Haha that was exactly the hidden message behind my april fool ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mustang29 253 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Il y a 4 heures, Hokkaido a dit : Okay, found some time to check the files! First of all the Gigapack Mellotron strings on Ich tu dir weh: https://vocaroo.com/i/s0N2L8jijZGj And now 3 different "Echo Drops" from three Roland Sound Canvas rips. The first one has its focus on choir, the second on bells, the third one (the closest one so far, from Roland SC-55) on a plucked instrument - now we have to find the original version with that "glitchy organ" tone... Maybe it's the one on the JV-30/35 https://vocaroo.com/i/s1FvcXplJIqC Edit: There was also a Roland SC-33 and SD-35... I dont think flake used gigapack melotron for ITDW.. lesson to jacob helner video.. its sounds like preset "strings on tape" in Omnisphere. Pretty sure he used strings from omnisphere but not gigapack At 1h02:57sec 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 2335 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Radio pad at 0:45 Lush Supersaw Pad 1 (Omnisphere 2) Link to post Share on other sites
jona201235 8 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 radio lead 1:00 -ARP goblin (sylenth 1) disable arpeggiator and regulate the filter control is possible? Link to post Share on other sites
Fleischgewehr 48 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) guys! at my new work, i am able to fiddle around with the big main DAWs and VSTs on the market, and IF you have LOGIC PRO X....go to the "plucked" section, try the SCATTER PAD. again, its NOT the ITDW one, but again, "plucked" and sounds sooo similar....so "plucked" is a definitive element there in the ITDW intro patch... you can hear it here, just mute all the other tracks..... https://splice.com/SundryMusic/digital-time Edited April 26, 2019 by Fleischgewehr Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 248 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 il y a 25 minutes, Fleischgewehr a dit : guys! at my new work, i am able to fiddle around with the big main DAWs and VSTs on the market, and IF you have LOGIC PRO X....go to the "plucked" section, try the SCATTER PAD. again, its NOT the ITDW one, but again, "plucked" and sounds sooo similar....so "plucked" is a definitive element there in the ITDW intro patch... you can hear it here, just mute all the other tracks..... https://splice.com/SundryMusic/digital-time How to mute them? 😅 If you have access to Logic... Could you check the ES2 synths for Keine Lust (the rattling effect behind the guitars?) and the Amerika solo? Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 2335 Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 Lush supersaw Pad 1 confirmed by you guys for Radio ? Link to post Share on other sites
Synth_Lead 96 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Il y a 1 heure, Atomiiik a dit : Lush supersaw Pad 1 confirmed by you guys for Radio ? I confirm, and if it’s not that one it’s very VERY similar ! Link to post Share on other sites
Fleischgewehr 48 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Hokkaido said: How to mute them? 😅 If you have access to Logic... Could you check the ES2 synths for Keine Lust (the rattling effect behind the guitars?) and the Amerika solo? just click on that little S symbol on the left to the track you wish to hear "S olo" and hey, good idea. i will look for it. however, the AMERIKA solo comes off to me as a "regular" keytar sound. but we'll see. then again: i do not know jack shit about logic, i do not know how many extensions or extra packs there are for it and if my employer has "only" the factory logic X pro library. Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 248 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 il y a 33 minutes, Fleischgewehr a dit : just click on that little S symbol on the left to the track you wish to hear "S olo" and hey, good idea. i will look for it. however, the AMERIKA solo comes off to me as a "regular" keytar sound. but we'll see. then again: i do not know jack shit about logic, i do not know how many extensions or extra packs there are for it and if my employer has "only" the factory logic X pro library. Oh, I see. The function is disabled on mobile. It's similar...but the original ITDW sound is more "fluid" and "glitchy". But I'll try several filters on the Roland Echo Drops next week. The ES2 was a standard preset synth in Logic but maybe they changed it...Reise, Reise is already 15 years old...damn, time's running. Another thing I can't get off my mind: What synth was used in Feuer frei? My first thought was a TB303...but it's still different. Edgy and bubbly. Never heard anything like that again. Maybe it was a Virus or Nord Lead... A Virus B was definetely used during the Reise, Reise and Rosenrot era and a Clavia Nord Lead was allegedly used during Sehnsucht. It is known for its fat and cold synth sounds and maybe it's the hardware used for the live versions of Weisses Fleisch, Engel and Laichzeit. They all share the same synth bassline which can also be heard in Das Modell and Küss mich. The odd keyboard solo in Alter Mann seems also very Nord-Leadish. The thing is: Can't find a full Preset Show or a good preset rip. :/ Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 2335 Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 il y a 1 minute, iljinst a dit : Echo drops ? Or a sound on the Ensoniq ? Link to post Share on other sites
Synth_Lead 96 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Il y a 7 heures, Hokkaido a dit : Oh, I see. The function is disabled on mobile. It's similar...but the original ITDW sound is more "fluid" and "glitchy". But I'll try several filters on the Roland Echo Drops next week. The ES2 was a standard preset synth in Logic but maybe they changed it...Reise, Reise is already 15 years old...damn, time's running. Another thing I can't get off my mind: What synth was used in Feuer frei? My first thought was a TB303...but it's still different. Edgy and bubbly. Never heard anything like that again. Maybe it was a Virus or Nord Lead... A Virus B was definetely used during the Reise, Reise and Rosenrot era and a Clavia Nord Lead was allegedly used during Sehnsucht. It is known for its fat and cold synth sounds and maybe it's the hardware used for the live versions of Weisses Fleisch, Engel and Laichzeit. They all share the same synth bassline which can also be heard in Das Modell and Küss mich. The odd keyboard solo in Alter Mann seems also very Nord-Leadish. The thing is: Can't find a full Preset Show or a good preset rip. 😕 Also remember the synth track on Jacob Hellner's ITDW mix file was named "Talk", maybe there's a preset that has the same name in some synthesizers Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaido 248 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Il y a 2 heures, iljinst a dit : That's it 😀 Link to post Share on other sites
mustang29 253 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Its played with the ASR10 as midi controller and FX thru the In jack, but not preset loaded on it Edited April 27, 2019 by mustang29 Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 2335 Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Mais du coup c'est pas Echo sur sa vidéo ? Si ? Un autre nom du preset Talk quelque chose ? Edited April 27, 2019 by Atomiiik Link to post Share on other sites
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