babach70 1279 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Je me demande toujours à quel moment intervient le travail de Flake lors de la création d'un morceau.. On sait qu'ils partent des textes de Till me semble-t-il, mais ensuite c'est assez flou, ou alors ils en ont déjà parlés et je ne m'en souviens plus. Quelle influence a t-il sur l'ambiance du morceau, la crée t-il ou s'y adapte t-il ? Edited October 9, 2022 by babach70 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JessR+ 5935 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Flake ne fait pas partie de Rammstein. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Pierrick 6583 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Il y a 4 heures, babach70 a dit : Je me demande toujours à quel moment intervient le travail de Flake lors de la création d'un morceau.. On sait qu'ils partent des textes de Till me semble-t-il, mais ensuite c'est assez flou, ou alors ils en ont déjà parlés et je ne m'en souviens plus. Quelle influence a t-il sur l'ambiance du morceau, la crée t-il ou s'y adapte t-il ? Non ils partent rarement des textes de Till, au contraire c'est plutôt Till qui essaie de faire coller des textes aux intrus. Visiblement le plus souvent les idées de chansons débutent à partir d'un riff proposé par les guitaristes, ou alors via un jam de tout le groupe. Et ensuite Flake apporte ses contributions lors du développement du morceau. Mais il a du probablement arriver que le clavier de Flake soit à la genèse d'un morceau. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Fleischgewehr 44 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 6:08 PM, babach70 said: Je me demande toujours à quel moment intervient le travail de Flake lors de la création d'un morceau.. On sait qu'ils partent des textes de Till me semble-t-il, mais ensuite c'est assez flou, ou alors ils en ont déjà parlés et je ne m'en souviens plus. Quelle influence a t-il sur l'ambiance du morceau, la crée t-il ou s'y adapte t-il ? Outre le fait que je pense que TOUT LE MONDE peut contribuer aux chansons ou apporter ses propres idées musicales, je suppose que Flake est le dernier dans le studio. ou du moins, il n'intervient qu'après que la fondation (batterie, basse, mélodie de base) d'une chanson soit faite. d'une certaine manière, il doit faire le travail le plus créatif avec la musique. parce qu'il doit aussi réarranger des parties de ses trucs pour des performances live. Link to post Share on other sites
mustang29 233 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) En ralentissant l'intro de WIDBFS, je me suis rendu compte qu'un des samples de Doom que l'on connaissait (le cri) déjà était utilisé dans l'intro, voici un essai avec tous les samples (tout fait maison :D) sur ASR-10 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/10ho81dcEwUKVJIzwI8WD9DWPdPuo8zQF/view?usp=sharing Edited October 16, 2022 by mustang29 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Metz 8 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 My version of ADT main synth https://voca.ro/17dsrzoNvG7t Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 1897 Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) I didn't noticed it before but Flake used a Fatar Studio 610 Plus on the Bizarre Festival 1996: Edited October 20, 2022 by Atomiiik 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Fleischgewehr 44 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Flake now plays some new extra nonsense during ZICKZACK with a panflutey / shakuhachi-kinda sound, likely the same he plays the chorus melody with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 1897 Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 @Fleischgewehr it reminds me the BUTWHATIF sample on Spieluhr Link to post Share on other sites
Fleischgewehr 44 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) On 10/28/2022 at 7:33 AM, Atomiiik said: @Fleischgewehr it reminds me the BUTWHATIF sample on Spieluhr it also gives this minor chord song a weird major chord moment. but no, its no sample, he clearly plays it, because theres different notes, also he uses it in the chorus before that, its a patch, not a sample. still wtf. Edited October 29, 2022 by Fleischgewehr 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 1897 Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 I think i found the Gummi sampled beat on Spectrasonics Distorted Reality, it needs to add an extra snare or something, no ? Spectrasonics Distorded Reality I>Partition B>60-110BPM>Big Bone 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MorayM 4 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Going back in time but does anyone know about any of the other samples used on Asche Zu Asche? I've got the Mellotron sample but would love to know what any of the others are! (mainly the lead sound) Link to post Share on other sites
mustang29 233 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Made some tests on my ASR10 and I guess the solo is a distorted piano sound 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MorayM 4 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) Nice one! Just layered a distorted piano sample with an acid synth bass and I'm pretty much there. It sounds like there's a filter envelope on the piano sound as well. The solo lead sounds like a vocal sample to me? EDIT: I *think* it's Vocal Pad 1 from the ASR-10 (same as Du Hast) with vibrato all the way up and some distortion. I got pretty close using that sample in Kontakt. Edited November 6, 2022 by MorayM Link to post Share on other sites
mustang29 233 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Il y a 3 heures, MorayM a dit : Nice one! Just layered a distorted piano sample with an acid synth bass and I'm pretty much there. It sounds like there's a filter envelope on the piano sound as well. The solo lead sounds like a vocal sample to me? EDIT: I *think* it's Vocal Pad 1 from the ASR-10 (same as Du Hast) with vibrato all the way up and some distortion. I got pretty close using that sample in Kontakt. You mean the organ part? Link to post Share on other sites
mikelorenz 72 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 bonjour est ce que quelqu'un a des samples de ce synthé de la chanson pus** vidma_recorder_09112022_093935.mp4 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SkullX2 149 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) Je me perdait dans Omnisphere et j'ai trouvé un son qui ressemble fortement à celui sur le deuxieme couplet de Pussy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xDwBrVYZ0gTRDN7MhiYwsFS4u3R60pi3/view?usp=share_link [Whistlers Lead] (Desactiver tout les effets et réduire la durée du portamento) Edited November 10, 2022 by SkullX2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Sonnelichtkeys 5 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/9/2022 at 12:43 PM, mikelorenz said: bonjour est ce que quelqu'un a des samples de ce synthé de la chanson pus** vidma_recorder_09112022_093935.mp4 What an honor to show a video of my property. Preset Used Omnisphere - Whistlers Lead No Effects Link to post Share on other sites
Sonnelichtkeys 5 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Piano Fruhling In Paris ? Omnisphere - Dreampiano D-50 https://drive.google.com/file/d/11yx9kVSKl1pf3qMCXe_GF9e1LlwTSUW9/view?usp=sharing Link to post Share on other sites
MorayM 4 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 2:54 PM, mustang29 said: You mean the organ part? The "stabbing" lead part after the chorus (1:53) https://youtu.be/_8C0Z8I-PuY?t=113 My gear is packed up for a gig at the moment but when it's back I can do a recording Link to post Share on other sites
mustang29 233 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 its more an organ than a choir 😁 Link to post Share on other sites
mikelorenz 72 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 bonjour les gars j'ai rejoint ce chat flake Rammstein parce que vous trouvez des échantillons de flake mais le problème est que je n'ai pas omnisphere mais je ne sais pas si vous pouvez me partager quelques notes de ces presets omnisphere qui sont la chanson puppe la vérité est Je n'ai pas un bon ordinateur portable J'espère que vous pourrez m'aider salutations ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SkullX2 149 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 https://drive.google.com/file/d/15iz031ehpPRlvB8xXHwmi1hGiRCVr3-K/view?usp=share_link @mikelorenz 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Fleischgewehr 44 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) could it be that the (live!) bass intro synth for AdT might be a very edited Massives DXologie? it IS very stabby and massive is highly editable with its sounds. Edited November 21, 2022 by Fleischgewehr Link to post Share on other sites
Atomiiik 1897 Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 I'm sure the choral at the end of the trailer is from Omnisphere like Morte & Dabo for the Deutschland video Link to post Share on other sites
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