Les presets synthétiseurs de Christian Flake Lorenz

[mustang29]

Sonne strings : Roland L-CD702 Orchestral Family vol1 (same CD with Sonne strings Str_Orch. F 2aS) : preset performance"Orchestral F"

 

https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/047I0XhxWVQ7CKDF23esGQoyQ#Roland_-_Orchestral_F

 

Edited October 16, 2024 by mustang29

[mikelorenz]

XX - Large 800 Pro FX/Partition B/XP Weird 3-4/X Weird FX3/X WEI22

 

I was listening to the center channel of the Live Aus Berlin concert and I think Flake is using the same scream he used on Benzin and Buscktabu in Herzeleid. I added distortion in Kontakt but maybe with ensoniq distortion it will sound better, what do you think?

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gfyi8P4xPOHWz6LB8yv98Qep50Q3wzNE/view?usp=sharing

Edited October 19, 2024 by mikelorenz

[mikelorenz]

Does anyone else get the feeling that Flake is using Benzin samples?

At that moment you can hear it.

 

 

[Hokkaido]

It seems the full Sehnsucht Intro origin was found:

 

 

Has somebody info about the song/record/muezzin's name?

[Atomiiik]

il y a 1 minute, Hokkaido a dit :

It seems the full Sehnsucht Intro origin was found:

 

 

Has somebody info about the song/record/muezzin's name?

 

@SkullX2 should know

Edited October 21, 2024 by Atomiiik

[DuduMil]

4 hours ago, Hokkaido said:

It seems the full Sehnsucht Intro origin was found:

 

 

Has somebody info about the song/record/muezzin's name?

It is from this song: https://youtu.be/1MO3CE3cGrw?t=100&si=JfhC0G2KNT1q3G0N

[Hokkaido]

Il y a 2 heures, DuduMil a dit :

It is from this song: https://youtu.be/1MO3CE3cGrw?t=100&si=JfhC0G2KNT1q3G0N

 

So it's a Turkish woman with the name Selda singing? 🤣 What a discovery and my Nintendo heart is also somewhat satisfied

[Fleischgewehr]

LMAO daaaamn, this is easily one of the NICEST and BEST finds EVER in this thing we have here. who the fuck and how the hell did they decide "oh hey, theres a turkish song i happen to know, that has 5 seconds in it, if we pitch it down by an octave or so, it would totally be a great intro to that new song we have" ?!

 

my last fling had muslim background, and i showed and asked her about the sample, if it was a call to prayer or such and she told me, "makes no sense as a muezzins call, definitely not heard before"....now we know why. 
 

[Atomiiik]

il y a 1 minute, Fleischgewehr a dit :

LMAO daaaamn, this is easily one of the NICEST and BEST finds EVER in this thing we have here. who the fuck and how the hell did they decide "oh hey, theres a turkish song i happen to know, that has 5 seconds in it, if we pitch it down by an octave or so, it would totally be a great intro to that new song we have" ?!

 

my last fling had muslim background, and i showed and asked her about the sample, if it was a call to prayer or such and she told me, "makes no sense as a muezzins call, definitely not heard before"....now we know why. 
 

 

Rammstein really took it from Zero-G but the Zero-G staff sampled it this way

[Fleischgewehr]

3 minutes ago, Atomiiik said:

 

Rammstein really took it from Zero-G but the Zero-G staff sampled it this way

still... who the hell at zero-G decided that, and how come the singer(s family) (n)ever claimed royalties from rammstein because of their MASSIVE success with the song? i guess only ZERO-G paid her originally, because with buying a sampler i guess all the samples are free to use for any artist....?

the word shes singing is "aglayan" = "crying".  OK enough autism for the day.

[Hokkaido]

Zero-G certainly didn't pay any licenses back then - they just sampled, pitched it up and hoped that nobody would notice 😄 Classic sampling of the early 90s... But the fact that it took almost 30 years to find out the origin, despite Rammstein, is really very strange. I can imagine that Rammstein themselves don't even know this origin.

[DuduMil]

Best Service - Peter Siedlaczeks Orchestra > PARTITION D > STRINGS C0-C6 > STR C0-C#3

To me, these are the Sonne strings, because they sound a bit closer than the Roland ones. I also think it's this patch because Flake also used this disc on Sehnsucht and on Nebel.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K-lyfZl1L5p0CUBHh3p284sotaebb2qn/view?usp=sharing

[Hokkaido]

Il y a 5 heures, DuduMil a dit :

Best Service - Peter Siedlaczeks Orchestra > PARTITION D > STRINGS C0-C6 > STR C0-C#3

To me, these are the Sonne strings, because they sound a bit closer than the Roland ones. I also think it's this patch because Flake also used this disc on Sehnsucht and on Nebel.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K-lyfZl1L5p0CUBHh3p284sotaebb2qn/view?usp=sharing

 

Def! 👍

[mustang29]

Il y a 6 heures, DuduMil a dit :

Best Service - Peter Siedlaczeks Orchestra > PARTITION D > STRINGS C0-C6 > STR C0-C#3

To me, these are the Sonne strings, because they sound a bit closer than the Roland ones. I also think it's this patch because Flake also used this disc on Sehnsucht and on Nebel.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K-lyfZl1L5p0CUBHh3p284sotaebb2qn/view?usp=sharing

Can you upload a try for the chorus ?

[DuduMil]

1 hour ago, mustang29 said:

Can you upload a try for the chorus ?

Sure, like this?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z52k1_Kisn0-h8QOko_bRl6iKFuSTTeg/view?usp=sharing

I don't think the strings were used in the chorus, only in the bridge and the ending, imo.

[mikelorenz]

Nord Lead 1/Card 1/Bank 3/Preset 09 Whistle

 

Is the hiss in (5/4) from Korg or Nord? I made an audio sample with Discovery Pro, so from my perspective it's from Nord Lead.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qWCpTl6rCneuxZzKVxSJ4g3vvxB01A_L/view?usp=sharing

[mikelorenz]

In Liebe Ist Fur Alle Da there is a cartoon sound before the guitar solo, what do you think?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 28, 2024 by mikelorenz

[Atomiiik]

il y a 8 minutes, mikelorenz a dit :

In Liebe Ist Fur Alle Da there is a cartoon sound before the guitar solo, what do you think?

 

 

 

 

 

I always thinked it was made with the guitar but your probably right, for the 5/4 whistle i don't know what to think about this but it sounds exact to me... As the Korg Wavestation preset too 😂

[DuduMil]

7 hours ago, Atomiiik said:

 

I always thinked it was made with the guitar but your probably right, for the 5/4 whistle i don't know what to think about this but it sounds exact to me... As the Korg Wavestation preset too 😂

Imo it is from the Nord Lead for sure, I can't seem to find any picture of Flake with a Korg Wavestation in studio during Mutter, and the one from the Nord Lead sounds way closer than the Korg Wavestation one.

[Atomiiik]

[NOISE+SE 11] white noise / helicopter on Rammstein, from AKAI S3000 library {CD1>Partition K>SWM3011 N+SE>NOISE+SE 11}.

[Hokkaido]

il y a 27 minutes, Atomiiik a dit :

[NOISE+SE 11] white noise / helicopter on Rammstein, from AKAI S3000 library {CD1>Partition K>SWM3011 N+SE>NOISE+SE 11}.

Same for Mein Herz brennt or Herzeleid Intro?

[mikelorenz]

AKAI S3000/CD1/PARTITION B/3011 MIX STR/MIX STRINGS 

 

Guys, I wanted to share this with you, I was listening to the center channel of the LAB and I noticed that in Tier, in the part where the Thremin plays, there are strings in the background, maybe Flake uses the same Engel strings.

 

What do they say?

 

By the way I had to modify the preset filter.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pGMK9Y7J4a6B7ioqJec1N_Nuq1qjd9Do/view?usp=drivesdk

Edited November 3, 2024 by mikelorenz

[Hokkaido]

Il y a 5 heures, mikelorenz a dit :

AKAI S3000/CD1/PARTITION B/3011 MIX STR/MIX STRINGS 

 

Guys, I wanted to share this with you, I was listening to the center channel of the LAB and I noticed that in Tier, in the part where the Thremin plays, there are strings in the background, maybe Flake uses the same Engel strings.

 

What do they say?

 

By the way I had to modify the preset filter.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pGMK9Y7J4a6B7ioqJec1N_Nuq1qjd9Do/view?usp=drivesdk

 

Difficult to say, but it works. In the studio version, those strings are different - they have more of a elastic/synthetic stinger / stab / pad character. Maybe something from Nord Lead?

 

Engel strings have a very fluffy Mellotron taste. 

 

I hope they'll be found one day, because I really like them

 

😄

Edited November 3, 2024 by Hokkaido

[Atomiiik]

We already said few years ago this Mixed Strings were used in live for Engel but for the studio version of Tier it's different yes, maybe Roland ?

[DuduMil]

58 minutes ago, Atomiiik said:

We already said few years ago this Mixed Strings were used in live for Engel but for the studio version of Tier it's different yes, maybe Roland ?

Surely Peter Siedlaczeks Orchestra disc.