Les presets synthétiseurs de Christian Flake Lorenz

[Hokkaido 249]

il y a 34 minutes, Stefano a dit :

 

I think is a Nord Lead preset but modified. There are no presets like this synthbass, I try to make it myself. But is very very strong.

 

It could be a Yamaha SY77/85/99 / TG77 / TG500

The synth basses I've heard so far on preview demos are very similar to the ones on Herzeleid

Edited November 7, 2023 by Hokkaido

[mustang29 253]

I still think its lsx31 steak from ensoniq, layer 2 if i remember with the modwheel affected to the filter cut off

[DuduMil 325]

2 minutes ago, mustang29 said:

I still think its lsx31 steak from ensoniq, layer 2 if i remember with the modwheel affected to the filter cut off

It's definitely from Waveboy Effects, but I don't really think it's LSX31 STEAK, maybe another one? Like, LSX27 SQUEEK from the Disk 1, the same where Classic Pad is located.

[Hokkaido 249]

I think Enigma and Falco used the same "Stripped outro" preset. This one sounds more like it than Transolia 🤔

 

 

 

 

[mikelorenz 122]

{Ensoniq Masterbits Hotkeys>SYNTH-SOUNDS>EMPEREOR}

 

Hi, what do you think about this, do you think it has been used in stripped?

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AMjFji-aS0XR3zIGGUGBkvnGVXR8yLEs/view?usp=sharing

[mikelorenz 122]

{CD2>Vocal Sound>Choir>Small Choir}

 

Maybe (Small Choir) is one of the choruses of Stripped

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fFQ2UA-Kk2O_2V44LTL96BR1nV8fKduP/view?usp=sharing

[DuduMil 325]

6 hours ago, mikelorenz said:

{CD2>Vocal Sound>Choir>Small Choir}

 

Maybe (Small Choir) is one of the choruses of Stripped

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fFQ2UA-Kk2O_2V44LTL96BR1nV8fKduP/view?usp=sharing

It's Ambient Poly from the Nord Lead. For Empereor, I'm not sure, it sounds that it's more from an AKAI library than Ensoniq.

[MorayM 8]

Just found this video of Jacob Hellner going through the Ich Tu Dir Weh session. The quality is garbage but it includes a bit on the keyboards: 

Confirms that the lead sound is from the ASR-10 (although no idea what the original sample was). We also get to hear the isolated strings, which sound way more like a Mellotron than I expected. They don't sound like the Studio Tron Strings used elsewhere on LIFAD, or like the Akai MLTRN STRNG1 used for Asche Zu Asche though.

[MorayM 8]

On 11/7/2023 at 11:36 AM, DuduMil said:

Also, since you have access to the Nord Sample Library, can you check the preset Harp, or Harp1 for the harp of Lügen please?

I've only got an older version of it (for the Electro 4D) which doesn't include the newer sounds on the ones Flake uses. The only Harp sample in my version is "Harp__DVv4" which is quite a dull sound compared to the one on Lugen. The Lugen harp sounds like it was recorded with a very close mic, this one is roomier.

[mustang29 253]

Il y a 1 heure, MorayM a dit :

Just found this video of Jacob Hellner going through the Ich Tu Dir Weh session. The quality is garbage but it includes a bit on the keyboards: 

Confirms that the lead sound is from the ASR-10 (although no idea what the original sample was). We also get to hear the isolated strings, which sound way more like a Mellotron than I expected. They don't sound like the Studio Tron Strings used elsewhere on LIFAD, or like the Akai MLTRN STRNG1 used for Asche Zu Asche though.

Vocal pad used. Same for waidman heil and FIP

[DuduMil 325]

1 hour ago, MorayM said:

I've only got an older version of it (for the Electro 4D) which doesn't include the newer sounds on the ones Flake uses. The only Harp sample in my version is "Harp__DVv4" which is quite a dull sound compared to the one on Lugen. The Lugen harp sounds like it was recorded with a very close mic, this one is roomier.

You have what version? Because I've once had access to a Nord Wave, which had the Nord Sample Library 2.0, and there was one preset called Harp1 that was veeeery similar to the Lügen harp. If it's not from there, yes, it's definitely recorded with a real harp.

[mustang29 253]

il y a 10 minutes, DuduMil a dit :

You have what version? Because I've once had access to a Nord Wave, which had the Nord Sample Library 2.0, and there was one preset called Harp1 that was veeeery similar to the Lügen harp. If it's not from there, yes, it's definitely recorded with a real harp.

Best Harp from wall of sound 🤣

[DuduMil 325]

Well, to me it isn't, because of the sound quality and shit (to me, just by listening to the song, its harp sounds way to realistic to be from the ASR), but, everyone has their opinion, and I respect that 

[DuduMil 325]

The synth above the ASR-10 in the Pussy video clip, is a Moog Prodigy. According to Atomik, this synth was sold by RZK some time ago.

[Atomiiik 2348]

il y a 2 minutes, DuduMil a dit :

The synth above the ASR-10 in the Pussy video clip, is a Moog Prodigy. According to Atomik, this synth was sold by RZK some time ago.

 

Oh nice, never noticed it was from this video

 

Here are some photos published by Richard on the selling page

 

 

 

 

 

[MorayM 8]

15 hours ago, DuduMil said:

You have what version? Because I've once had access to a Nord Wave, which had the Nord Sample Library 2.0, and there was one preset called Harp1 that was veeeery similar to the Lügen harp. If it's not from there, yes, it's definitely recorded with a real harp.

There's no harp player credited in the liner notes (not that they've ever been particularly open about who plays what on albums). It's an easy instrument to sample so there's no reason to get a harpist in to play such a simple part.

 

Do you mean these Nord samples? https://www.nordkeyboards.com/sound-libraries/nord-sample-library-20/guitars-ethnic-string I can see if I my old Electro can read it.

[MorayM 8]

15 hours ago, mustang29 said:

Vocal pad used. Same for waidman heil and FIP

Good spot. Any ideas on the strings?

[DuduMil 325]

35 minutes ago, MorayM said:

Good spot. Any ideas on the strings?

I would say or Omnisphere, or G-Force M-Tron Pro.

[DuduMil 325]

47 minutes ago, MorayM said:

There's no harp player credited in the liner notes (not that they've ever been particularly open about who plays what on albums). It's an easy instrument to sample so there's no reason to get a harpist in to play such a simple part.

 

Do you mean these Nord samples? https://www.nordkeyboards.com/sound-libraries/nord-sample-library-20/guitars-ethnic-string I can see if I my old Electro can read it.

According to the Nord website, it'll work just fine in your Nord Electro.

[Hokkaido 249]

I finally found my old recording where a background song had the same synth from Sehnsucht / Spiel mit mir:

https://drive.filen.io/d/47c98756-ae86-4fac-a165-0824d619b003#jqGOTu75OKTFLkI40w5h5t1a4MIwVH9B

 

The recording is from 2010 (it was an advertising on Comedy Central Germany) and unfortunately recorded with a PC microphone, but here you can clearly hear that it's not something as exotic as a modified Clavia Nord Lead or Waveboy sample... it's a pure preset from some synth. But which one?

I recently found a preset on the “House Master” sample CD that also has a similar character.
Unfortunately only one sampled note... so that muddy, duck-like arpeggio character that the original machine probably can do is missing:

https://drive.filen.io/d/def582a9-9c8e-429c-ba18-5b770bda08e4#AMkt1zMRUJTlqdxBChcQx6crC1xjeW4r

 

Edit:

Somehow I also get hard Donkey Kong Country vibes from this song...maybe something from the Korg Wavestation? Definitely sounds very late 80's...

Edited November 9, 2023 by Hokkaido

[Hokkaido 249]

And another old finding. Back in 2009 someone on homerecording.de posted his song:

 

https://drive.filen.io/d/87bef539-6491-44b2-a3d8-20e6231a28a4#V0X9vDK5SlApOmLRhwvSBRgW9hmlVxFB

 

And there's the delayed woodblock sample from Nebel.

 

Unfortunately he forgot which Sample CD he used :/

[Hokkaido 249]

And one more - the Morgenstern live version choir:

 

https://drive.filen.io/d/9c3cac95-f5c2-410f-bcea-ba2b671c0dc8#AYJG6nZzdeCR0izrjlfOXxiBaFH5MozK

 

It dates 2009 and says Reason Refill. But I don't know if it's from a Reason Sample Pack or a native preset

[SkullX2 173]

il y a 6 minutes, Hokkaido a dit :

And one more - the Morgenstern live version choir:

 

https://drive.filen.io/d/9c3cac95-f5c2-410f-bcea-ba2b671c0dc8#AYJG6nZzdeCR0izrjlfOXxiBaFH5MozK

 

It dates 2009 and says Reason Refill. But I don't know if it's from a Reason Sample Pack or a native preset

 

That choir is from Symphony of Voices.

[Hokkaido 249]

il y a 19 minutes, SkullX2 a dit :

 

That choir is from Symphony of Voices.

 

Mystery solved 😄 Normal "Aaah choir"?

[DuduMil 325]

1 hour ago, SkullX2 said:

 

That choir is from Symphony of Voices.

Great! I actually thought it was from Logic Pro.